Taking marathon running to the next level ( I hope!!)

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liamo123
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hi all before i look for your assistance i will give u a brief overview of my history to date.
Im 38 years old  and for about 10 years had not done any exercise of note. This changed in March 2009 when I got roped into running the Chicago Marathon in October 2009 ( best thing ever happened me!!). I started slowly and gradually built up my milage loosing 2 stone in the process. Chicago arrived and I had a wonderful experience running 3.27 in the process.. A few weeks later I ran in Dublin and clocked 3.26. I have just completed the Barcelona Marathon in 3.21.
My diet is good and I have cut down alot on my alcohol comsumption.. Unfortunately im a smoker and despite numerous attempts have been unable to give up( 15 to 20 a day) This I hope is about to change as Ive received advice from my GP in relation to giving up and hope to take the big step in the next couple of weeks.
Now advice time!! My next marathon is Berlin in September 2010. I feel if I change my runing habbits along with being cigarette free I can continue my improvement. Can anyone give me training advice in relation to tempo runs etc help improve my basic speed.. also should I be spending time doing Gym work..
Thanks in advance

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I find a great way to improve speed is by running 5km races. They really take you out of your marathon pace comfort zone and help you to find another level in relation to speed. I find it easiest to do my interval speed training on a treadmill. Many here wont agree with me but its great for regulating your speed. For 20 mins I do intervals of 2 mins @7.5mph and then 2 mins of 10mph +. Its brilliant for speed and has really helped me. I find cross training in the gym very useful, in particular the rowing machine, eliptical and stepper. These machines help develop leg muscles not necessarily used during running and make you less susceptible to injury. Best of luck in Berlin. BTW a 3hr21min marathon is awesome! Dont sell yourself short!

Sean

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There are loads of articles on this site and the web in general about training programs/regimes to build up speed based around interval running, tempo runs and on and on and on. I think you just have to adapt any advice to cater to yourself.
Personally, I really dislike the gym, dont like the air, the heat...I prefer just to get out and run, though there is benefit in building up muscles not normally heavily tested in running, but I believe you can still get all the major muscles sorted by mixing in different terrain, hills etc.
I also hate structured interval running, run 1K at X pace then jog at Y pace and so on. I run to warm up, speed up when I feel good, slow down when I dont then speed up again with second wind....almost interval running :) Though I know that interval running is supposed to be the 'way' to increase speed, it would knock all the enjoyment out of running for me if I went out to run like that, so I dont. Maybe if I hit a plateau and really feel the need I might try it, but it doesnt suit me. You are still improving so giving up cigs and sticking at it will probably still see improvements in your time.
For tempo running I enter races because its very hard to push yourself running on your own and you dont need to do too many tempo runs anayway. Main drawback here is expense.
I am operating on a marathon speed experiment by trying to build up my endurance. So I'm doing long runs, in the expectation that where I generally start to feel bad in a marathon aorund 20 miles should be extended to say 24 miles. This means that I'll be able to maintain a good speed throughout rather than fading too early or too much, but as I said at the start, thats whats working for me at the mo.

RobC123
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HI There, goes anyone have an email address for the organiser of the Connemarathon.  I want to run the ultra this year, and have a friend that has a half marathon number. I want to know if I can transfer the name on it and transfer the number to an ultra number? Any suggestions,

liamo123
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Thanks for the advice lads.. Ur right Sean the way to go is shorter runs at a faster pace( tough Im not looking forward to it!!!). Im not a great fan of treadmills but will definately do so strength work in the gym
Im going to do the Dunboyne 4mile race on 28th March and work up from there. As I do all my training on my own I really enjoy races. I agree DseDeath.. its a great way to push urself that bit harded.
For next Monday I will be fag free I hope so onward and upwards!!

WicklaTpr (not verified)

Excellent! I love it! You're smoking 20 a day and still doing sub 3:30. Fair play!

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Rob

I'm in a similar predicament and emailed the info@connemarathon.com email address but havent received a response yet. I'm registered for the full but want to drop back to the half as i've just discovered i'm pregnant and my doctor has advised against the full! Will be interested to hear how you get on!

Best of luck in the ultra if you get to do it! If not maybe you can clock a good marathon time in my name :)

Audrey

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Hey well done on the Marathon good Job..
If your looking for Improved performance over any Distance the main thing to do is Increase whats known as your Lactace Treshold (Exact point at where Metabolic waste such as Lactic acid builds into the muscles) and also increase your Vo2 max ( Maximum uptake of Oxygen) this is done by exercising below your LTreshold..
Ie, if Athlete 1 has a resting Heart rate at 60 and a Max of 180 this means he or she can exercise at 3 times ther resting Heart Rate..
Athlete 2 has a resting Heart rate of 30 and a max of 180 this means that they can exercice at 6times ther resting Heart rate so Athlete 1 has very little chance of catching Athlete 2.. over any Distance esp the Marathon..
Website may be of some intrest to you
enhancedrunningireland.com
Train smarter for better results not harder..
All the best

liamo123
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thanks for the advice George.. I have alot of research to do as im not too familar with Lactace Treshold etc.. I think its time to ditch the stopwatch and buy a garmin!!

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