Arch pain
Hi Guys,
I have just joined the site. I took up running in Jan 09, lost about 3 stone and completed the Dublin City Marathon in Oct. Since I started training i have been experiencing pain for different reasons. One pain I am currently having is arch pain.
When I first took up running I got Asics runners. I was advised to get the asics 21/40. These have been working perfect for me. Although when I was using different shoes for work (I work on my feet all day) I have been getting arch pain. I have done different things like using the insoles from my old (Asics) runners in other footwear and while this worked temperorialy, it has come back to haunt me again. My training is nothing like the training comming up to the marathon so i am at a loss as to what it is. It is the evening time when I experience the pain in my right hand arch the left hand is ok.
While in Cork before Christmas I got tested by Peter Maher (in Maher Sports) and he was gung ho to sell me orthotics. I did not get them from him as he tried to tell me that after a 5 min consultation in the shop told him what i needed and for that price I was expecting a better analysis of my feet. Also I am still not sure if I want to go down that line as I can imagine once you start using them thats it for life. A friend of mine suggested today to start using foamthotics. I looked them up on the internet and it seems you can only get them in New Zealand, which is not a major problem as I know someone over there who can send them on to me.
So after all that, I am just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems and how did you sort them out. Are orthotics the answer?? Or must I give my body more time to adjust? Any information is apprciated .
Thanks, Paudie
My advice for problems with your feet is see a physio and get to the root of the problem otherwise you will just throw good money after bad on everyone elses ideas and still have no answer as to what is happening with your feet and so will always wonder what the problem is/was especially if you intend to keep up your running. Problems with you feet can result in injury elsewhere in the body as the body tries to compensate for the pain in your foot/feet. I wear orthotics but got them after problems with my feet but with proper advice from my physio and had them custom made and now they are just shoved into my shoes and no problem at all. But if you do get them follow the advice and ease yourself into them as they take time to adjust to but once you have you won't notice them at all. Best of luck and hope you get sorted. If your looking for a physio there are a few names on general forum in different disscussions or you can look up articles I know there is one on foot problems, yvonne
Thanks Yvonne,
After last year I'm sure Ive paid for my physio's children's way through college!!! Have an appointment with him on Wednesday. He is letting it at my call whether or not to go for orthotics but he says if i do i have them for life. Which wouldnt trouble me if i thought they would cure the problem cause I hope the running will be life long passtime. Im finding it hard to speak with someone who have experience with orthotics who arent trying to sell them to me!! Its not the cost of them that troubles me id be quite happy to pay for them if they will help.
Paudie.
Hi Paudie, I got them for pain in my feet too and didn't know that I'd have them for life but wouldnt even notice them now at all in fact my feet would miss them if they were not in my shoes! I started with the soft ones but last year when I really started running my physio suggested that I go for the custom made ones as they were harder and would last longer and so worked out cheeper in the long run. One suggestion though if you do find they are what you need ask your physio to cusion the front part as when you remove the shoes insole to fit the ortotic if you only have a thin lining on the front part so you don't get cusioning in the front part of the foot and can be uncomfortable for the ball of your foot. Another hint is that the custom made ones can be relined and so again last longer as they are like new when done. One very important thing though with them is if for any reason you havent worn them in a long time your feet have to readjust to them again a very painful lesson learned the hard way! Was in hospital for three weeks just before the Dublin Marathon this year got out to do the marathon put my runners on and off I went half way round my feet were killing me as I'd forgotten to take the ortotics out and when I finished I couldnt walk for a week after my feet were so sore! Good luck hope all goes well for ya
Hi Paudie, I got them for pain in my feet too and didn't know that I'd have them for life but wouldnt even notice them now at all in fact my feet would miss them if they were not in my shoes! I started with the soft ones but last year when I really started running my physio suggested that I go for the custom made ones as they were harder and would last longer and so worked out cheeper in the long run. One suggestion though if you do find they are what you need ask your physio to cusion the front part as when you remove the shoes insole to fit the ortotic if you only have a thin lining on the front part so you don't get cusioning in the front part of the foot and can be uncomfortable for the ball of your foot. Another hint is that the custom made ones can be relined and so again last longer as they are like new when done. One very important thing though with them is if for any reason you havent worn them in a long time your feet have to readjust to them again a very painful lesson learned the hard way! Was in hospital for three weeks just before the Dublin Marathon this year got out to do the marathon put my runners on and off I went half way round my feet were killing me as I'd forgotten to take the ortotics out and when I finished I couldnt walk for a week after my feet were so sore! Good luck hope all goes well for ya
Hi Paudie, how did it go with the physio today hope all went well, did ya need orthotics afterall or was it just a simple problem, yvonne
HI Yvonne,
I didnt make it to the physio today, my dad is in the hospital since Tue morning so Ive put it off until he is okay again.
Thanks for thinking of me, will let you how I get on when I get going. Paudie
Hi Paudie sorry to hear about your Dad I hope that he will be ok, you mind yourself pleanty of time for the feet when your Dad is better best wishes yvonne xx
Hi Yvonne,
Thanks for posting the info on orthotics, i do wear custom ones got through my chiropractor and went for a 8 mile walk/ run on Wed (doing my first half in connemara), i was ok until i took off newish runners when i got home, i literally couldnt put any weight on feet with pains in arches for a few hours, i celebrated with two bags of frozen peas one under each foot(well it was paddys day!), feet are still a tiny bit tender so im nervous about doing a session this coming weekend, do you think its best to cust back on miles and wear orthotics or go back to older shoes with orthotics....seems like you learned the hard way
thanks a mill Martha
Hi
Just wondering about the spectator aspect of the marathon and best places to stay. Can people drive anywhere on the route at all or is it just via the spectator bus or at the start and finish of the marathon? And if you are staying in connemara but nearer the start than either of the bus pick-up points can you make your own way to the start?
First time running this marathon...Is most of the route fairly ok bar the hills at mile 13 and 22-24?Or should I expect hills from start to finish?
And are there a good few water stations?
Thanks! I read the threads alot but never seem to be able to answer questions so never post
Muireann
Hi Martha, just a quick question are you wearing the orthotics all the time or just for running? I wear mine all the time in nearly all my shoes except really dressy one ( that's really rare!). I buy the same runners all the time as I got a few gait analysis done with the orthotics in the shoes and the shoes are consistently 100% for my feet and running style so I never have a problem changing over to new runners with the orthotics. The problem I had with the orthotics was I was in hospital for three weeks and on my back the entire time so when I arrived for Dublin I hadn't wore any type of shoe in all that time so that's why I had the problems with them as you really have to take the advice seriously and get your feet use to them over a period of time, which for Dublin I didn't have! Are your othotics new or have you gotten your feet use to them? When you say you have new runners are they just a new pair of the same brand or are they a different brand altogether and the most important question of all.... did you get a gait analysis done with the orthotics in the shoes you bought? This is important as they can change your running style and therefore how the shoes fits your feets new running style? Sorry about all the questions. If you have checked all the above try just wearing them for a while after your run to give your feet a chance to relax again after the run and stretching is very important after your run as your feet need them especially calf stretches. But what I find brillant if this happens to me is to me to massage my feet with a golf ball. Just get a golf ball and roll your foot over it on a towel if you have wooden floors or on carpet. The ball is hard enough and small enough to really give your feet a really good massage and though very hard on them when you start using the ball after a while when they get use to it, it really is the bussiness, very relaxing for your poor feet that work so hard for you. Sorry if this is very long winded been a long week but I hope it helps. Good luck in Connemara it's a magical place to run and I might just see you at the finish, yvonne
Hello Yvonne
Thank you so much for coming back to me, yes i wear the orthotics all the time, but did change my runner brand even though both were neutral shoes. I didnt even think that it would cause an issue as i had worn them out on shorter walks and thought they were practicially broken in, , i tried the golfball to-day, talk about the pleasure-pain thing!!! but i must admit it really worked. Im heading back to my chiropractor monday for a rescan to check orthotics with shoes etc so thank you so much for the advice, its really appreciated:)
Even though its my first half marathon really looking forward to it.......maybe even the full in aug!!!!
thanks again
Martha
You go girl! Ya you got the golf ball thing right very sore but oh soooo good after a hard run! Always have one in my kit bag and everyone asks me do I play golf... no offence to anyone who enjoys the game but my answer is always when I get older I will take it up...really would prefare to watch paint dry, but to each their own I guess! Glad to have been of some help and good luck in Connemara not long now and I can't wait!! What marathon are you thinking of in Aug am doing Longford I think or maybe the one in Galway amn't sure how my schedual is for then am attempting my first sprint tri in Aug and am both looking foward to it and dreading it at the same time!!! Anyway best of luck with the feet, yvonne xx


My advice for problems with your feet is see a physio and get to the root of the problem otherwise you will just throw good money after bad on everyone elses ideas and still have no answer as to what is happening with your feet and so will always wonder what the problem is/was especially if you intend to keep up your running. Problems with you feet can result in injury elsewhere in the body as the body tries to compensate for the pain in your foot/feet. I wear orthotics but got them after problems with my feet but with proper advice from my physio and had them custom made and now they are just shoved into my shoes and no problem at all. But if you do get them follow the advice and ease yourself into them as they take time to adjust to but once you have you won't notice them at all. Best of luck and hope you get sorted. If your looking for a physio there are a few names on general forum in different disscussions or you can look up articles I know there is one on foot problems, yvonne